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Tarot Card Comparisons: Thoth Tarot 7 of Cups-Debauch and The Elemental Tarot- 7 of Water/Ocean.

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The Tarot of Eli7 of Cups-Debauch;

 represents emotional over extension where depression is causing us to over-indulge in certain habits to avoid pain. This card indicates that imagination is running away with itself and we have a problem with facing reality.There is suggested here that there is a tendency for us to emotionally wallow in negative emotions of the past rather than changing our moods to live in the now of reality. Overindulgence  in food, drink, drugs,smoking ,gambling,  sexual antics, even shopping ...all from a tendency to feel sorry for ourselves. In other words, the seven of cups represents a self destructive way of coping with depression, or uncomfortable issues that one doesn't want to face by indulging in distracting patterns of excessive behavior.
The Seven of Cups-Debauch, also known as the: Lord of Illusory Success.
 Here is Netzach in Yetzirah, influencing the Astral World. In the Seven of Cups, Venus is in Scorpio, creating a very intense and emotional presence that is often involved in deceit. There is also a tendency to wallow in emotions, and/or self- deception to the point of dissipation. This does make it a card of egocentricity and selfishness.
Thus Crowley implies a great warning in this card, his lotuses are slimy, and ugly, a perversion of the sacrament of the cup in the Six., usually brought about by over-inflating the ego or staying locked in past emotions. The consciousness is polluted and the card implies, error, illusion and illusionary success, by denying the failure of past emotions to do the job.

 As before stated, the astrological symbol of this card is Venus in Scorpio; Venus represents love and beauty while Scorpio represents transformation and deep-emotional exploration. This suggests that a choice has to be made with much care and consideration during a time of run-away imagination and innumerable thoughts. This confusion is only enhanced by the abundant creativity, artistic talent and energy of the querent.

To reiterate: NETZACH, the Seventh Sephiroth is the entity of consciousness where feelings, and instincts begin. Netzach is undifferentiated and the Sephiroth of Group Mind. It is connected to it's opposite HOD-whose attributes are of the intellect, individualization, and beginnings of the individual mind. When observing this balance we can see that  Netzach is the Sephira of which the forces of Nature are attributed.

The Angels of this Sephira are called Elohim, often called the Gods, because they are for the personality in incarnation and for the human race. Also, Netzach is the Sphere of Venus-Aphrodite, the Goddess of Love. Thus Netzach-Victory, implies that the Victory is in Love of Being. Remember, Hu-man ( Hu-Chinese for god and Man from Hindu Manas/Mind) means God Mind, which declares us Elohim!

Therefore the spark (fire is Spirit) of the individual mind begins in the Group Soul -Fire that is Netzach, and becomes part of a group of flames/spirits that is self-comprehending/ or self aware, while also comprehending the Whole. Therefore, it is not all surprising that the arts, music, painting, poetry and all other things of creative imagination, are attributed to the Netzach/Hod union.

The Three key symbols of Netzach, are the Rose, the Girdle and the Lamp. The Rose is attributed to Venus and often associated with Love, as the most perfect flower. Traditionally the Girdle is also an attribute of Venus and to learn the secret of the knot in her Girdle means to direct the Venus forces of nature, i.e. tie them up or release them at will. The Lamp is the bearer of Fire relating Netzach to Geburah and the powerful warring forces of Mars. Is also known on another level, as the ever-burning light of the Temple of Lower Self.

The Elemental Tarot-7 of Water/Ocean, depicts a naked man astride an island. In his right hand he holds a rose, a symbol of Netzach as well as a love token. He has caught the smallest of seven falling coins, while walking forward and watching the others.

On the small island, between his legs, is a disk of five segments, that represents mankind, and if upside down, corruption. Now I am uncertain of the coins and disk  implications, as they are earth symbols that are usually used on Earth, Coins or Disk cards, which in Tarot all represent the earthly element, unless this is a subtle way of saying "manipulating others for personal gain".

A half concealed sun shines in a pale rose colored sky while small consistent waves lap the small island. According to the authors, this sky and wave combination is representative of constant movement, travel and repetition. 

The god name Sedna, is printed on the bottom of this card; Sedna being the Eskimo goddess of the seas. There is no female form on the card, simply because the Sea is her form and the male-force is represented as a nude man.

Again the authors have revised astrology in there union of Jupiter/Neptune (upper left corner) as planets reside in houses and not with each other. However the Benevolence of Jupiter and the vision of Neptune could be used to describe the highest happiness or apparent luck, as well as, being guided on trips.  The authors of the Elemental Tarot say this unique combination of planets also means, Speculation and idealism.
The Egyptian glyphs for this card are printed on the lower left corner.
Seven and its symbols are shown in the upper right.





Many of us fail to see that our individual consciousness, is a holy sacrament, rather we often over-indulge ourselves, with thoughts of lack, or superiority (bad and good), or over-indulging in past self pity, when none of those emotions exist in our present reaction to our environment. But our shadow seems to enjoy the gluttony of rampant emotion, that has no purpose but self glorification as a martyr or a saint.

We are One, who is Many. The Many are the Sacred Sacraments of the One. In other words, our incarnate consciousness is a formal sacred act or rite of Spirit. It is the rite of Spirit to become Sensually Self Aware! I AM ME! Is a declaration of an Elohim Yod, who is self aware.....and now can discriminate self thoughts from group thoughts and calls itself "Eli".

Thoughts, are the "First Matter", awareness of "First Matter" manipulation, makes us Supreme in our creations! By untying the "not of thoughts" that have been installed by social pleasure/pain training, we become masters of Existence---the I AM ME, rather than the polluted thoughts of a "I Wanna-Be Me" who is all tied up in self absorbed pain-creation;which really just states that we are creating ourselves as a "Lack" or a hole in time; an "I Ain't" rather than an "I AM"....by denying our own sacredness and selling that sacredness on the slave blocks of peer pressure;"fear of rejection" makes us swamps of seething fear-based emotions.

When the Seven of Cups, Debauch or The Elemental Tarot-7 of Water/Ocean is thrown during a reading, it implies:
  • Emotional over extension.
  •  A state of depression where one tries to ease the pain by overindulgence.
  • The imagination running away with itself and the resulting patterns are depleting the persons energy.
  • This is the place of Dreams, so it could be the ability to conjure up visions, fantasies, but the vision is watery, making it difficult to see reality. So there is a implication of true talent and insight, but tending towards fantasy, illusion and unrealistic attitudes. The surrounding cards will support or deny this latter  interpretation.
  • The desire to "play the field" and over-indulging in sexual conquest.
  • Taking emotional risk in order to gain new excitement.
  •   It indicates that in the next 7 weeks or 7 months, you are willing to move through indulgent or addictive patterns. This is shown by the number 7, which represents the Charioteer, that is the principle of change and movement.
  • In this case the number 7  indicates an inner spiritual/emotional support to assist you in your movement through depression and debauch patterns.
  • This card is about motion-emotion in fact, and it shows emotion be expressed in negative ways, rather than facing our feelings and solving them in positive non-victim ways.
  • The 7 of cups, suggest a willingness to change and move on but some confusion on how to go about it without undue pain.
  • You may also be experiencing negative emotions from the past; 7 years ago or when you were  7 , during some relationship crisis or family crisis.
  • This card suggests that you may want to move on and that you are no longer willing to carry the emotional burdens of the past family debauch or indulgent patterns of the past.
  • This also indicates that you may no longer tolerate the debauch patterns of others in your life or the indulgent dynamics of the Scorpio people in your life (October 21 to November 21).

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